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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: May 20, 2011 7:19am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Playin: the Post-Retirement Years [long]

I would have to disagree. The X factor is not involved after '95, but was in '68 w/ M&tHeatbeats.

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Poster: bkidwell Date: May 20, 2011 7:31am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Playin: the Post-Retirement Years [long]

Well, this is a can of worms topic, and from a personal subjective viewpoint I suppose I agree with you, but here's the thing:

Everyone seems to have a different date or definition for when the X factor went away, or when it was present. When a poster who I really respect like W. Tell says that he doesn't hear the X factor any more after Pigpen was gone, I respect and understand that. Some people say 77, some people say 81, some people say it went away when Brent died, etc. I've seen the opinion advanced that some of later spinoffs were better than the last few years of the GD.

The real point I'm making is that study and scholarship may be inspired by the pursuit of the X factor, but can't be limited by it. A serious scholar of Shakespeare studies the minor plays as well as the masterpieces.

We sometimes see topics about Sugaree and Deal as performed by JGB vs. their performance with the GD. I personally don't hear any "X factor" in JGB music, because for me, it is Phil more than Jerry that triggers my Xperience in that regard. I still think that looking at material that overlaps between JGB and the Grateful Dead is a valid part of dead musicology, and the same goes for Phil & Friends, I think.

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: May 20, 2011 7:48am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Playin: the Post-Retirement Years [long]

Ah, the rub. The day the music died, ended GD music for me. The Spinoffs are O.K. to awful, but I never listen to any of them. However, if it's more Lesh, less filling for you, I can see your point.
And most of these discussions have some degree of subjectivity. A can of worms indeed.